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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: renton on November 23, 2012, 03:55 pm
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[ UPDATE: the warweed account has now lost its vendor status and Silk Road have locked me out of it... ]
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Hi folks, I have a story to tell you and a confession to make. A little over a year ago a clearnet friend of mine tried to buy a glock handgun from warweed. After the weeks went by and it had failed to show he became convinced that he had been scammed. The three of us were regulars in the old SILC chat room and apparently warweed was ignoring his private messages. My friend posted this:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=8445
As a final insult to injury warweed suggested that my friend had misspelled his address whereas, in fact, it was just that google uses a different spelling scheme for English representations of Hebrew than what the locals use. I was pretty sure that warweed hadn't sent it so I decided to befriend him as a prelude to some sort of revenge. None of the SILC chatters realised that the two of us knew each other pre-Silk Road and my friend started lurking in the chat room under a new identity.
Gaining warweed's trust wasn't difficult and within a few weeks he was paying me to write him a digital delivery bot which he christened "WarBot".
After his recent arrest, warweed handed over the running of WarBot along with control of his SR account and a 25% share of the revenue generated. I saved his skin because the police took all his computer equipment and he appears not to have backed up anything related to his SR vending to a remote location. Before this happened the WarBot was running on his desktop computer and he gave me root access over SSH to keep it running because DPR often changes aspects of his website that break WarBot.
Last March I noticed that he was running a webserver on his computer that hosted a .onion webpage selling "stolen guns" so I decided to download all the PMs from the warweed account and search them for occurrences of this .onion using grep. Sure enough, there was one occurrence and it related to warweed telling a fellow Canadian vendor that he was about to buy a gun from it and asking if he wanted to buy one also. I took a copy of the .onion's private key and have now used it to host this:
http://yc3yiar5ncmmdw3j.onion
This convinced me 100% that warweed had indeed scammed my friend. Since then I've been reading most of the PMs to and from the warweed account and witnessed him repeatedly claim that bank transfers hadn't arrived or that cash he mailed must have gone missing in transit. I'm the person ItsMonday alluded to in his youtube video:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=22380
I've changed the password of the warweed account and modified the WarBot to cancel orders after delivery. He will now get 75% of zero.
renton
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/c2adceef4d
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Funny how a lot of these so called "respected" forum members all turn out to be snakes...and everyone used to give me shit for talking down to all of them manipulators, sheep leading the sheep around here...
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There is a word for this.. it's called
MASAKATSU.
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Nice work, renton, that's some real Geraldo At Large shit you just pulled off. Always hated that guy D:
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Funny how a lot of these so called "respected" forum members all turn out to be snakes...and everyone used to give me shit for talking down to all of them manipulators, sheep leading the sheep around here...
good post.... i always laugh at forums when people talk about "respected" forum members.. what makes them respected???? classic
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I can testify that warweed was a very bad guy, at least to me. Pull up a chair, spark a joint and hear my story, brothers.
Not long after I first joined SR about 8 months ago, warweed used a bot to copy all my digital listings word for word, and then posted them on his own profile to sell them for a slightly cheaper price, just to piss me off. He then told me over PM that I was cutting too much into his profits since I had joined, and that he didn't care about how ethical it was. He told me that he might take them down someday, if he felt like it. After I posted about this on the forums and he started getting some unwanted attention from it, he finally took all my copied listings down.
You might wonder how warweed had gotten copies of all of my digital listings downloads. That's also a very interesting story. I learned from other SR members that warweed had paid a friend of his by the name "redforeva" to go in and slowly buy all my items. You can actually see redforeva defending warweed in various other forum threads where warweed is accused of scamming or ripping people off. This made me think that they were the same person at first.
Anyway, here's where it gets really good. Not long after warweed had copied all my listings, he had redforeva go in and change every single one of his ratings on my listings from a 5 to a 1. Because redforeva had bought close to 100 listings from me and I was still a relatively new vendor, this caused my rating to drop by more than 15 percent and it took me many months to get my rating back up. Despite this however, my current rating is still better than warweeds, which makes me laugh sometimes.
This whole experience almost caused me to leave SR not long after I had joined, it caused me to think that most people here were dicks and scamers. Thankfully I stayed and learned that the vast majority of people here are awesome.
And that's my cool story, bros.
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Re to captainpicard:
Your post brought up something I think everyone should be aware of. This guy "redforeva" is hanging around the SR irc channel and is trying to chat it up in private with everyone he can. I suspected him to be LE at first. Now I think he's just a scammer waiting for the road to go down again so he can rip people off out of escrow. I don't have cold hard evidence, but his attitude, fake personality, and enthusiasm for pretty much any deal you can think of as long as it's out of escrow seems very suspicious. Everyone should be wary of who they deal with out of escrow and of course, avoid that risk completely if possible and this guy is no exception. His username is in ebonics and references a very large street gang. After reading your post Capt. Picard, I'm fairly convinced he's a con artist, if only an amateur. Be careful people.
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Re to captainpicard:
Your post brought up something I think everyone should be aware of. This guy "redforeva" is hanging around the SR irc channel and is trying to chat it up in private with everyone he can. I suspected him to be LE at first. Now I think he's just a scammer waiting for the road to go down again so he can rip people off out of escrow. I don't have cold hard evidence, but his attitude, fake personality, and enthusiasm for pretty much any deal you can think of as long as it's out of escrow seems very suspicious. Everyone should be wary of who they deal with out of escrow and of course, avoid that risk completely if possible and this guy is no exception. His username is in ebonics and references a very large street gang. After reading your post Capt. Picard, I'm fairly convinced he's a con artist, if only an amateur. Be careful people.
Yeah, that's another thing, be careful with who you deal with in IRC there's a lot of shady people showing up in there...
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I can testify that warweed was a very bad guy, at least to me. Pull up a chair, spark a joint and hear my story, brothers.
Not longer after I first joined SR about 8 months ago, warweed used a bot to copy all my digital listings word for word, and then posted them on his own profile to sell them for a slightly cheaper price, just to piss me off. He then told me over PM that I was cutting too much into his profits since I had joined, and that he didn't care about how ethical it was. He told me that he might take them down someday, if he felt like it. After I posted about this on the forums and he started getting some unwanted attention from it, he finally took all my copied listings down.
You might wonder how warweed had gotten copies of all of my digital listings downloads. That's also a very interesting story. I learned from other SR members that warweed had paid a friend of his by the name "redforeva" to go in and slowly buy all my items. You can actually see redforeva defending warweed in various other forum threads where warweed is accused of scamming or ripping people off. This made me think that they were the same person at first.
Anyway, here's where it gets really good. Not long after warweed had copied all my listings, he had redforeva go in and change every single one of his ratings on my listings from a 5 to a 1. Because redforeva had bought close to 100 listings from me and I was still a relatively new vendor, this caused my rating to drop by more than 15 percent and it took me many months to get my rating back up. Despite this however, my current rating is still better than warweeds, which makes me laugh sometimes.
This whole experience almost caused me to leave SR not long after I had joined, it caused me to think that most people here were dicks and scamers. Thankfully I stayed and learned that the vast majority of people here are awesome.
And that's my cool story, bros.
This is pretty consistent with my experience with redforeva.
I was the new guy on SILC, trying to make friends and learn the ropes, while getting ready for my first harvest for the Road.
There was this "kid" redforeva who seemed to know alot of folks, so I talked to him a bit. He was having alot of difficulties and out of pity (cause he wanted shrooms but had no monies) I sent him a zone on the front (and mad discounted at that).
Chat buddy hookup and all that.
I figured it would show me as a solid guy, test out my shipping, and maybe win me a longterm loyal customer.
Well I ask him "how'd ya like those boomers dude?"
"Never arrived"
"Funny.. the DCN # is right here.. XXXXXXXXXXXX. Says it was delivered."
months and months later he comes back and says a crackhead stole the package and was giving away shrooms to the neighborhood. Later I hear he was AWOL cause he got popped for carding.
Just cause you lie to cops, doesn't mean you lie to "friends".
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Ahh yes, Warweed the selective scammer.
I'm not going to go and vouch for anyone (kids look at where you are ffs) But Renton and I have been discussing Warweed's behavior for quite some time. If you remember the forum poster ItsMonday go off half-cocked at Warweed over a BTC purchase go wrong, well ItsMonday was correct, the funds were transferred no matter how much Warweed argued that he had not received them.
Much later on he admitted to me that if a noob was doing something stupid with their money he'd be the first one in line to teach them a harsh lesson. Buying BTC via Canadian emoney transfers was one of them.
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Warweed stole $500 worth of BTC from me near the beginning of my time here on SR in what was supposed to be a cash in mail for BTC deal after he had gained my trust by actually helping me out in some previous purchases.
Just thought i'd add another instance of him scamming, cuz at the time not a soul would believe me or listen to me because he was a 'trusted' member.
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In actuality this is really sad and a disgrace, but I guess in my own twisted mind, this is one of the funniest threads I've read in a long time. I also have not seen someone's reputation fucking DEMOLISHED in 10 posts or less Roflmfao. This is good shit.
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I can testify that warweed was a very bad guy, at least to me. Pull up a chair, spark a joint and hear my story, brothers.
Not longer after I first joined SR about 8 months ago, warweed used a bot to copy all my digital listings word for word, and then posted them on his own profile to sell them for a slightly cheaper price, just to piss me off. He then told me over PM that I was cutting too much into his profits since I had joined, and that he didn't care about how ethical it was. He told me that he might take them down someday, if he felt like it. After I posted about this on the forums and he started getting some unwanted attention from it, he finally took all my copied listings down.
You might wonder how warweed had gotten copies of all of my digital listings downloads. That's also a very interesting story. I learned from other SR members that warweed had paid a friend of his by the name "redforeva" to go in and slowly buy all my items. You can actually see redforeva defending warweed in various other forum threads where warweed is accused of scamming or ripping people off. This made me think that they were the same person at first.
Anyway, here's where it gets really good. Not long after warweed had copied all my listings, he had redforeva go in and change every single one of his ratings on my listings from a 5 to a 1. Because redforeva had bought close to 100 listings from me and I was still a relatively new vendor, this caused my rating to drop by more than 15 percent and it took me many months to get my rating back up. Despite this however, my current rating is still better than warweeds, which makes me laugh sometimes.
This whole experience almost caused me to leave SR not long after I had joined, it caused me to think that most people here were dicks and scamers. Thankfully I stayed and learned that the vast majority of people here are awesome.
And that's my cool story, bros.
captainpicard, i can not believe that fucker pulled that shit on you, you're a super stand up. just know you have mine and alot of other fans respect.
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... Wow. That's all I can really say. The guy sounds both like a real scumbag... and, now, a real sucker. Cheers on taking over his business, man. And on fucking it over, too.
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This is by far the dumbest thread i have ever read in 10+ years of forum browsing.
"warweed" shouldn't be selling guns to 16 year olds and you shouldn't be fucking over arms dealers.
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rofl i love you renton
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I'm surprised this guy hasn't been banned already with all these horrible accusations by different people. It sounds like he's been getting a way with a lot at the expense of other SilkRoad members. I always hate hearing stories like these on the forums :-\
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Well gang this is only the tip of the iceberg as far as I am concerned.
WARNING to all IRC chatters: Warweed has multiple usernames and many are unknown but there.
Warweed will show up about 2 a month for say 5-15minutes to show face and go right back into alias'.
I know this because either Warweed has been too generous in nature with getting chatty or underestimated my intelligence in spotting linguistic styles and cross information contamination.
The fact of the matter is warweed has been a scammer on silkroad since it's origins, I believe his moral compass has slowly been unraveled and popped where even "honor among thieves" is nonexistent, if such a thing real.
Renton has done this community a great service and is a member I shall forever call friend.
I shall share some information with the community on warweed's nature. He is what we call a "collector". He collectors information, pictures and any little thing he can use to his advantage at anytime in the future. He will hack you computer if allowed, pilfer your files, photos and even your favorite porn site. This is the type of ppl that roam these forums so if you are not aware of the dangers just are on and dealing with these sites you need to research daily and empower yourself with knowledge because everyday their ARE ppl taking advantage of exploits in ppls systems.
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Sorry renton,mate, for using this chance to get something off my chest.
I have a hypothesis on the forum hack a couple weeks ago when you all went to screaming "the sky was falling". Well it is of my "OPINION" that the hack was from warweed's LE friends, which spread mass psyops and demodded the moderators that could best solve the situations, namely myself first and then others as it became evident they were to be dealt with too. My posts were instantly deleted within minutes of me posting for about an hour and then I stopped posting and went on vacation because it was evident to me that the forum hack was profile post sitting on my posts and removing as I posted them.
Now call me the oldest tinfoil hat member around but this is my honest opinion of the situation. Ask any OG member if my educated guesses in the past haven't been 100% correct. I call it like I see it and nothing is every going change about that, sadly this sometimes has consequences but I sit here with my battle scars and I still have a grin on my face because I know the new generation here doesn't know me as well as OG's, but I am documented here since the beginning and anyone that wants to educate themselves on Silk Road could do a lot worst than to start with my 1st post and read my posts since the beginning to not on gain knowledge but see that my dedication to the community is unquestionable.
I have much love for this community even though the half of you act like you are eating the neighbors newborn for breakfast. I know the potential to work together to make this an upstanding place where the scammers can be driven out. Communication and working together has saved many here from making huge mistakes, now let's take it up x10.
X)
nomad bloodbath
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Well gang this is only the tip of the iceberg as far as I am concerned.
WARNING to all IRC chatters: Warweed has multiple usernames and many are unknown but there.
Warweed will show up about 2 a month for say 5-15minutes to show face and go right back into alias'.
I know this because either Warweed has been too generous in nature with getting chatty or underestimated my intelligence in spotting linguistic styles and cross information contamination.
The fact of the matter is warweed has been a scammer on silkroad since it's origins, I believe his moral compass has slowly been unraveled and popped where even "honor among thieves" is nonexistent, if such a thing real.
Renton has done this community a great service and is a member I shall forever call friend.
I shall share some information with the community on warweed's nature. He is what we call a "collector". He collectors information, pictures and any little thing he can use to his advantage at anytime in the future. He will hack you computer if allowed, pilfer your files, photos and even your favorite porn site. This is the type of ppl that roam these forums so if you are not aware of the dangers just are on and dealing with these sites you need to research daily and empower yourself with knowledge because everyday their ARE ppl taking advantage of exploits in ppls systems.
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Sorry renton,mate, for using this chance to get something off my chest.
I have a hypothesis on the forum hack a couple weeks ago when you all went to screaming "the sky was falling". Well it is of my "OPINION" that the hack was from warweed's LE friends, which spread mass psyops and demodded the moderators that could best solve the situations, namely myself first and then others as it became evident they were to be dealt with too. My posts were instantly deleted within minutes of me posting for about an hour and then I stopped posting and went on vacation because it was evident to me that the forum hack was profile post sitting on my posts and removing as I posted them.
Now call me the oldest tinfoil hat member around but this is my honest opinion of the situation. Ask any OG member if my educated guesses in the past haven't been 100% correct. I call it like I see it and nothing is every going change about that, sadly this sometimes has consequences but I sit here with my battle scars and I still have a grin on my face because I know the new generation here doesn't know me as well as OG's, but I am documented here since the beginning and anyone that wants to educate themselves on Silk Road could do a lot worst than to start with my 1st post and read my posts since the beginning to not on gain knowledge but see that my dedication to the community is unquestionable.
I have much love for this community even though the half of you act like you are eating the neighbors newborn for breakfast. I know the potential to work together to make this an upstanding place where the scammers can be driven out. Communication and working together has saved many here from making huge mistakes, now let's take it up x10.
X)
nomad bloodbath
Well fuck, why haven't you been returned to mod-status?
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Silk Road is just a mess, be careful who you deal with and give details to.
The forums should be viewed as just a den of schemers scammers and scum, be grateful for the bonds you have made but be wary of making any new ones.
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haha I wondered what happened to him, good riddance
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I can testify that warweed was a very bad guy, at least to me. Pull up a chair, spark a joint and hear my story, brothers.
Not long after I first joined SR about 8 months ago, warweed used a bot to copy all my digital listings word for word, and then posted them on his own profile to sell them for a slightly cheaper price, just to piss me off. He then told me over PM that I was cutting too much into his profits since I had joined, and that he didn't care about how ethical it was. He told me that he might take them down someday, if he felt like it. After I posted about this on the forums and he started getting some unwanted attention from it, he finally took all my copied listings down.
You might wonder how warweed had gotten copies of all of my digital listings downloads. That's also a very interesting story. I learned from other SR members that warweed had paid a friend of his by the name "redforeva" to go in and slowly buy all my items. You can actually see redforeva defending warweed in various other forum threads where warweed is accused of scamming or ripping people off. This made me think that they were the same person at first.
Anyway, here's where it gets really good. Not long after warweed had copied all my listings, he had redforeva go in and change every single one of his ratings on my listings from a 5 to a 1. Because redforeva had bought close to 100 listings from me and I was still a relatively new vendor, this caused my rating to drop by more than 15 percent and it took me many months to get my rating back up. Despite this however, my current rating is still better than warweeds, which makes me laugh sometimes.
This whole experience almost caused me to leave SR not long after I had joined, it caused me to think that most people here were dicks and scamers. Thankfully I stayed and learned that the vast majority of people here are awesome.
And that's my cool story, bros.
Hmm that does suck, but the whole listing copying thing, hell everybody does that.. looks like half of your listings were original from DrawkwarD's stuff lmao
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Lets clear some stuff up shall we ?
did i rip rentons friend for the piece sure did .. i know im a asshole to little to late what can you do .. would you send a gun to Israel or at all ? i wouldn't hell i never shipped or sold anything tangible on sr ever let alone a gun ... lol are you fucking MAD ? thats just stupid if anyone wants own a gun buy it the legal way.
secondly this claim i ran this website is absolutely false i never ran any such thing can i prove it ? nope not really i honestly can't explain the website or the pm's to be honest but really does it matter ? not really i can't prove it for all i know renton could have just as easily set it up and been communicating with the said buyer i really don't know to be honest
as for captinpicard guess who wrote the script for cloning your listings dumb dumb renton.. lol its the internet get used to it your a copy and a paste away from it happening again
what you all forget is renton accessed warbots server and the warweed account regularly and wrote a bunch of automation stuff to fuck with a lot of users
regardless tis all in the past also i wasn't banned btw
i spoke with dpr personally had the final balance of my account transfered to my backup account had the seller status removed and the account locked it's still there i just had it locked out to prevent any more malicious activity. or any attempts to scam the public using a user account with a damn near flawless transaction history of tens of thousands of sales ..
oh and Nomad ? your fucking cracked man your nothing but a overly paranoid fucking junkie there is a reason why your old lady left you ..
I have and always will be using the name warweed never once have a used anything different with exception to right near when all this went down when i logged in to speak with a certain member on irc
say what you will but your fucking cracked my friend
"from warweed's LE friends, which spread mass psyops and demodded the moderators that could best solve the situations"
like do you even listen to yourself my LE friends ? do you really thing LE are intelligent enough to exploit the forums ? no and they don't care either if anything there just monitoring users and trends and such
anyways friends ..
we shall be seeing your around ;)
-warweed
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Let's not forget that warweed is the same piece of work who, when confronted with accusations that he was a scammer, not only denied it at first and insisted he sent the gun, this douchebag went the extra step of playing the race card, trying to stir up hatred of Jews on SILC chat and SRF, even going so far as to reveal the country that his victim was in. Then other folks like uniwiz on SILC joined in on the Jew-bashing fun. That sounds suspiciously like something Hitler would do. Anyway, I've reported the guy to the Jewish Defense League, and hopefully warweed will be getting a visit from the Mossad, or something similarly unpleasant.
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I called the league of extraordinary gentleman
Really though I got nothing against Jews really just the Jew who was trying to buy a gun
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These forums are fucking hilarious...my only interaction with Warweed was many moons ago when I set up a new buyer's account to get away from a shitty stat situation. Any new user at the time was immediately cataloged into his DB and then sent a bot spam message welcoming them to the road and offering lots of cheap shit you can download anywhere on the internet so you could pad your stats (also recommending a few other vendors, so there's some links there).
Predatory indeed, but with the amount of dumbasses I've witnessed in my days here I'm sure he racked up quite the coin stash. Can't blame a wolf for killing sheep if the shepherd allows it.
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"Can't blame a wolf for killing sheep if the shepherd allows it."
To think there are those of us who won't kill sheep when allowed to and on top are still said that we do anyway. By those that do kill sheep no less (Chez, Incognito/Digits, Everybody"
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Larghetto really? You are going to try and prop yourself up in here?
How many orders do you drop ship from clearnet vendors where you hand over other peoples data without encrypting it to unkown sources? And you want to talk about who's the scammer and who's the 'good' guys?
Please don't even go there, we all know how complacent you have been with peoples information, lets not bring it up into the light again.
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Hello Looker,
You love to say about how you know everything about me, how it is the way you know it is, why is it that way because of the reason you know it must be for.
BUT YET LOOKER - You don't ever say HOW YOU KNOW
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Since when did you have to cite source on common knowledge ?
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When burden of proof is unsatisfied to make your statement anything more than an unknowable insult. Yyou don't have any reason or any knowledge to back up the belief.
I don't do that, and why would? If data is kept that I actually need to keep then it's encrypted and not actually identifiable to anyone. I do that just to keep a log of the buyerr stats.
All my email addressees receive work email with any info in them in PGP encrypted form between each other, other people, and so on. Not only that! It is kept in PGP form in the mail client (and is encrypted again on top).
Please don't be saying such nasty untrue things. Why do you have a side of you that would even consider messing with someone's business being a peer no less.
I won't even give people the purity tests I do on things I buy on here since I don't want to change their current display of themselves they made. That's a bit extreme I know, but it's how I do things usually unless there's major reason (e.g scam) and it will protect people from a bad entity
I don't mess with people like you guys do. I didn't even think you'd post, it wasn't insulting or w.e.
Can you delete your posts? I didn't intend any reaction like this you've done, and I just want to get back to work. I will delete my posts as well of course.
I politely request this.
LG